Thursday 25 January 2024

Nature or Nurture

 The eternal argument which is never settled.   I remember discussing it during Teacher Training over fifty years ago.   My son and I fell into discussion about it only last evening.

My son reminds me so much of my first husband - my son's father.    With both parents practising musicians it was inevitable that he would grow up playing an instrument and I suspect he didn't so much choose the Double Bass as drop into a gap in the school orchestra (he went to a Cathedral School near to where we lived) and have a wonderfully sympathetic and inspiring teacher who everyone called 'Uncle Bertie'.

I was always a reader/writer and have a love of literature - especially poetry and books about Natural History.   My son writes very well and writing now that he has retired has taken over every spare moment when he is not being a Carer for his wife. I have to say his poetry and his writing in general has long surpassed mine - his use of language is now often 'out of my league'.

But my goodness me his character, his decisiveness, his 'no nonsense' approach to life, his enthusiasm for filling his life with things to do (ham radio, astronomy, keeping in touch with old friends) is his father through and through.

Me?  I have my mother's insistence in almost excessive tidiness.   When my main morning carer, J, who is the same, goes I get the first exercise of the day as I walk round checking that everything is in its place.   I can't relax even if a cushion on the settee is out of alignment!!

But from my father I have a love of the countryside, of nature in general and a love of poetry.   And from them both I get a complete and utter love of the hare.  My dad loved the hare for its fearlessness, its speed and its sheer beauty.  I hardly dare tell you that my mother loved it for an entirely different reason!  Jugged hare was her very favourite meal.  She loved preparing it,  she loved cooking it slowly in the fire oven (coming home from school I could smell it cooking as I turned down the drive at the side of the house. ) I hated it and always had something like a jacket potato instead.  My parents would savour it and tell me that it was healthy to eat food which came from the open countryside.   Much better than what my mother scathingly called 'shop bought'.

I love the hare still - I have books on the hare, a bronze hare cleaning its paws sits on my hearth, another smaller one leaps across the top of my bookshelves.  They remind me of my childhood in the open fenland countryside of Lincolnshire where hares were plentiful.  Years ago I wrote a poem on the hare - I leave you with it:

The Hare.

Dew flirt,

Mysterious, wild thing of the ploughed earth-

birthing in the furrow and

living for the free, open ground.

Tales of mystery and magic surround you.

How little we really know you - the wild one.

'Familiar' of the goddess Freya as the black cat

to the witch.

You stand tall, tipped ears erect,

 meet my eye with your fearless gaze.

Then you are gone, leaping and flying

through the air in one gigantic burst of speed.

Sleep with your eyes open if you will.

Dance to the rhythms of time

as you have always done.

Shun taming.

Stay free.  But

give me that occasional glance

to gladden my heart.

 




50 comments:

gz said...

We love hares too. A day when you see one becomes special.

Nature nurture....we are of both

Judy from Maine said...

Wonderful memories always remind me what a blessed life I’ve had, I dare say they do the same for you. Thank you for sharing yours. And what a beautiful poem, my minds eye saw the handsome hare you describe.

Tom Stephenson said...

A certain poem by Philip Larkin springs to mind... I prefer yours though.

Rachel Phillips said...

I like the poem.

Sue said...

I used to love watching the hares 'boxing' when we lived on our first farm in Oxfordshire, the flat fields all around us meant we could see for miles. I had to keep an eye on the dogs though and distract them if I thought they had spotted the hares.

I always think we are all a bit of both ... nature and nurture. It's a good mix.

Anonymous said...

My mother kept a clean but messy house. I remember her saying “the dust will be here long after I am gone, there is more to life than a little dust.” She was very sociable and preferred to be doing anything other than cleaning. She was an excellent cook, made all my smocked dresses and loved playing bridge with her friends. My dad was the quiet one who loved teaching us about nature, geography ,the stars, boating, swimming etc. I turned out bits of both of them. I got my love of reading from my dad. Mom was far to busy to read! I have never seen a hare, only little bunnies so don’t understand your poem. Gigi

Barbara Rogers said...

The only time our house (as a child) was totally spic and span was when we were having company. Lots of work then dusting and polishing. I think I learned that and often do the same, but skip the polishing. Music was kind of forced on my sister and myself. I'm now glad I learned it. Hares are indeed amazing wonderful animals, and deserve many poems.

Anonymous said...


I enjoyed your poem. We lived in Iowa before moving to Georgia and I believe the Iowa jackrabbit is a hare. As for housecleaning or a tidy home, I prefer things not scattered around. My idea of clean is not sparkling or nook-and-cranny clean. I guess I would say "clean enough" I also love to visit homes that are full of interesting objects, collections, art, fabrics, etc (my artist friend's homes are a perfect example) but I cannot have my home that way. I have no idea why. Jackie

Derek Faulkner said...

I learnt absolutely nothing from my parents as they made no attempt whatsoever to teach me anything, as a result I became a child that rarely mixed and lived a life buried in reading books, which continues to this day.
Hares are a beautiful creature that I like very much and are still present in reasonable numbers where I live but are sadly still pursued by all the wrong people. The screaming that the hare makes when caught and then killed are something that chills you to the bone.

Anonymous said...

Beautiful!

Jacque from Colorado said...

So happy to find your post this morning, WoG! I only know hares as 'rabbits'. I'm sure there is a difference between the two, and I'll look it up later... I have next to no firsthand experience with rabbits, but I find myself drawn to them. I too have a small collection of rabbits, including a little bronze my late sister gave me that I treasure. Also a couple of two-dimensional fine art pieces of rabbits: one a linocut by a dear friend; the other an etching. Both give me great pleasure--as did your poem! Beautifully expressed, Pat! What a tribute to "hares everywhere"! Do you have troves of poems tucked away in drawers or on your computer? If you ever publish a book of poetry, I would buy a copy! Speaking of books... (sorry this is a rather random reply), your post niggled my brain into remembering an unread book I bought some time ago titled "The Running Hare--The Secret Life of Farmland" by John Lewis-Stempel. No doubt the cover art captivated me as much as anything, but when I randomly turned to a page here and there, I was pulled in in a heartbeat. Written in first person, you feel as if you're walking alongside the author, his words transporting the reader into another world--a world you, of course, lived in for decades and know all about. Still, I think you would enjoy the spell this author weaves with his words... Thank you again for another thought-provoking post, Pat.

Jacque from Colorado said...

PS More of your poetry, please!

Barbara Anne said...

What an interesting post, Pat, and I was glad to hear from you today! You are still an excellent teacher and poet.

I always surmised that the difference between hares and rabbits is size and length. The hare is larger and longer. Yes? No?

Nature and nurture. It seems to me that nurture is the strongest force in childhood, but nature shows up as deep interests that emerge as you grow up and aren't common to your parents. I've always read much more and a wider variety of books than my parents did and irresistible pull that drew me into quilting came from out of the blue as far as I know.

Hugs!


Damselfly said...

What an absolutely lovely poem!
Hares have always been a favorite of mine, and it's an extremely special day when I see a pair boxing in the field behind my home.

Susan said...

Great poetry. Our rabbits are on constant alert so I do not see them often. There are just to many predators. With hawks and owls above and fox below, this makes a rabbit's survival hard. I find in our early years we are exposed to our parents preferences and interests. Some are adopted but never all. New interests evolve and I think that's a good thing.

anonymous said...

In a previous post I wrote about people's lack of consideration for wild rabbits where I live . It's nice to see your appreciation for those sweet and lovable creatures.I like your poetry.I wrote poetry and prose for about ten years,just haven't been Inspired to do so recently.
It's a special treat to see a new post from you, Mary

Susan said...

Lovely poem. Interesting post. I'm in the "bit of both" camp. Always happy to claim the positive qualities of my children and grandchildren. I love art, drama, design etc but my children do not. Happily it seems I have an ally in my 6 yr old grandaughter, I'm thrilled. Both my children love gardening as I do. Oldest grandchild has no interest at all. Grandaughter may but as she also loves doing anything with her Daddy not sure yet. I have hopes for one of the two little ones, will have to wait and see. My mother also loved the arts but sadly both parents left me with a far amount of trauma.

Heather said...

Beautiful poem, and I love hares too. I hope I have never unwittingly eaten one. I have books about hares, a small bronze ornament 'moongazing' and a white china one lying with front feet crossed. Many years ago, to my delight, we had them in the paddock at the back of our house, and one one occasion our soft old golden labrador came across a leveret in it's form - what a treat. The leveret screeched at him, and we took the dog away so as not to upset it further.
I think I have my love of art, history, gardening and nature from my father. From my mother I have home making, cooking and practical crafts, as well as good manners and respect for others from them both.

Anonymous said...

Such a lovely poem and post. I agree with Jacque from Colorado.... more of your poetry would be nice!
Linda from Alabama

Anonymous said...

Interesting post and comments Pat.
My brother and I were quite different to my parents in interests. Mum is not 'bookish' like me, and my brother has gone off on a tangent of rifle club activities, often gaining state champion status in his field in his younger years, whereas I don't like guns, even for sporting shoots and competitions.
I don't think any of us ever had anything in common, but my parents were often described as
'decent people', 'good folk' etc, so I'd like to think I'm a decent person - a reflection on them. I try to be anyway.
A wonderful poem Pat. Always a sense of excitement to see a new post from you. - Pam.



Anonymous said...

p.s. - my brother used to think it was strange that my parents never attended a presentation,
even at the request of the club, and his mentor. Mum and Dad's attitude was 'No, look we'll leave you all to it." We never really blended if that makes sense.

John Going Gently said...

The Hare.

Dew flirt,

That’s enough x

Rambler said...

There were many rabbits in the field below my home; their burrows were in the banks of the railway line which ran along the edge of the field. My dog used to love to 'race' the trains as they passed, so exciting for him. But if the rabbits were out, my dog would stay behind me - he was scared of them and not even the thrill of a train rushing past would tempt him away from my protection.
Similarly, each morning I would walk my young grandson to school along the many footpaths and my dog, of course, accompanied us. I loved to see the hares as they stood on their hind legs, for all the world gossipping and occasionally glancing at us as we approach along the path. Not a bit scared of the dog, quietly (and nervously)following at my heels. (It seems word had got around about his fear of bunnies!

gmv said...

I love your hare poem.

Debby said...

I've always felt that nurture had more influence than nature, but something shocked me. When my oldest grandaughter began to talk, it was a strange, halting hoarse voice. Pat, I recognized it right away. My son, her father, had the same voice. I thought his little 'alien' voice was adorable, of course, and he did outgrow it, just as his own daughter did, but I marveled at that shared trait. Obviously it was 'nature'.

Just a couple weeks ago, I was reading about Barbra Streisand. Did you know that she cloned her beloved dogs? I was so curious about that, and began to read up on it. Turns out that it is not all that rare. It happens often enough that there have been vets who have written about it. One of the observations that sticks in my mind is that they can actually track the onset of health problems by following the vet reports on the first dog. As in, if a dog had, say, kidney problems beginning at age 8, the same thing would happen with the cloned dog at about the same point in its life. I found that so interesting.

So. I guess that I have changed my thinking. It is a combination, and it seems that nature plays a bigger part in things than I would have guessed.

I don't know that I've ever seen a hare in real life, but I love the pictures and sculptures of them. I got my daughter and son-in-law a moon gazing hare statue for their garden as a Christmas gift.

Anonymous said...

Red (Hiawatha House blog) recently told us about and got photos of the hare that has s

Anonymous said...

Has spent the winter days in the snow under his raspberry bushes. I loved seeing how it’s fur turned lighter as the weather got colder as natures camouflage against the snow. Sorry the first part of this slipped away from me and published early.

Red said...

You've got a hot topic today. It's all very subjective. It means a lot to parents. However, I come to this question from a different angle. My children were adopted. The MM and I had many discussions. She definitely stood for nature. I was nurture. I've changed to some extent over the years. Both kids were very bright. Both voracious readers. Excellent writers. Great speakers. Iffy on music. Iffy on art. We know one of the parents and there's not much likeness so her nature must come from her father's side and we don't know him. I think nature/nurture slides back and forth with time. Some people are more nature. Some are more nurture. I'm a reader but not half of what they are. I'm a writer the same way compared to them. So great topic as always.

Red said...

Great poem that catches the freedom and nature of the hare.

Bonnie said...

What a wonderful poem you have written! Thank you for sharing it.

Cro Magnon said...

We used to have a cleaner who always arranged objects by size after cleaning. When she was gone my mother would rearrange them haphazardly.

thelma said...

Sweet poem. I also love the hare, it has a wildness not seen in other native animals. My dog Moss once chased a hare the length of the Bath racecourse. The hare won of course.

The Weaver of Grass said...

Thank you all for your comments.

Hares and rabbits are both from the family 'Lepidopterae but in size and behaviour they are totally differemt. Rabbits are smaller, they live underground in burrows and they are not solitary. Hares are larger, faster, leaner, have longer ears and legs and live above ground. They have their young often in furrows in ploughed fields and leave them for long periods while they forage for food and return to feed them. They tend to congregate with other hares at breeding time - 'boxing hares' are a sight to behold.


Derek Faulkner said...

Hares also spread their young, known as leverets, singularly around meadows in tufts of grass, these sites are known as "forms"

Jacque from Colorado said...

Good morning, dear Pat. I enjoyed your clarification of rabbits versus hares, as well as other readers' interesting factoids. Thank you to all who contributed. (Every day's a school day!) I have heard of hares 'boxing', so I must Google it and find a video clip to watch. I'm sure there will be many...

Bonnie said...

Lovely poem!
Bonnie in Minneapolis

Anonymous said...

You know Pat, your nature vs nurture got me thinking all last night.
Thanks for re-activating the brain cells.
My mind moved on to grandparents with this nature vs. nurture, after leaving an earlier comment.
Often traits skip a generation. My nature comes very much from my maternal grandmother. Although she was not a great reader, we have the same wicked sense of humour, and I'd like to think love of children. I was extremely fortunate to have her presence growing up to confirm that I did, indeed, take after her. She was a great giggle-companion. I look like her sister.

Thanks for clarifying the difference between hares and rabbits. I always wondered. - Pam.

Anonymous said...

My husband is a radio ham, G4GCL, and is the editor of the magazine for Radio Amateurs Old Timers Association. RAOTA. I wonder if your son is a member? What is his call sign?
Love your blog. You make me think.
Best wishes
Ann Tyler

Virginia said...

What a lovely poem, thank you Pat. Last weekend we had friends for a meal, husband, wife and wife's sister from England. He is quite seriously compromised with dementia but came alive recounting a story of his childhood in England, taking dogs for walks on the marshes and how they'd set up a hare, but see it bound away with its great strides/hops leaving the dogs completely lost. I will send him your poem, as he also writes poetry and it may spark him again.

Over here, the high country has a rabbit plague, but hares are rare. I don't think I've ever seen one. Wishing you a good day, and a peaceful night.

Granny Sue said...

Thank you for the poem. Some great imagery there.
Is there a place we can read your son's poetry? I would be very interested, if it is available online or in print.

Hilde said...

Lepidopterae are butterflies. I happen to know this because I have a lepidopterologist in the family. The family of hares and rabbits are leporidae.
About nature or nurture: My father comes from a family with a lot of musical talents. Sadly he was the last one with this trait. I love music, but was never able to learn to play an instrument. My husband plays accordeon, guitar and trombone. Neither our sons nor our grandsons have the least interest in music.
Your poem is lovely. Could we have more of your poetry?

Anonymous said...

I so enjoy your blog. Believe that I was referred by John. But I must say that I am also intrigued by Rachel. I will not comment further. A blog that requires. Erick still. So I hope she sees that I have posted here. Go Rachel! Also, Pat, I have been so sick inspired by your blog. Selfishly I would have like for you to take extraordinary measure to extend your life. It that is selfish. Be well, enjoy your days, keep writing poetry — and perhaps you should pose for o e more artist group!

The Weaver of Grass said...

Hilde - sorry about the mistake. Would yo believe I thought about the wrong spelling in the middle of the night!!

The Weaver of Grass said...



SORRY EVERYONE. RABBITS AND HARES ARE IN THE FAMILY "LEPORIDAE" - remembered in the middle of the night that I had put the wrong name (butterflies)



I rather think hares may be called "Jack Rabbits" in the US

thank you Derek for adding that information.

Anonymous said...

Hilde - I believe the correct spelling is accordion.

Country Cottage said...

Great poem, I too love hares. Yesterday my hubby called me to the kitchen - there were 8 hares chasing each other around the field. Unfortunately it's the time of year to keep a look out for the dreaded hare coursers!

Anonymous said...


Peacemaker pat, I applaud you xxxx

Anonymous said...

Rachel. read your blog every day. Any comment as I do t have a google account. Ask him out

Hilde said...

Anonymous - thank you for the correct spelling of accordion. I just used the German one without thinking.

Vronni's Style Meanderings said...

What a beautiful poem! I simply adore hares, too. I look forward to seeing them (sometimes) when I'm walking in the countryside.