tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post7741413240563841335..comments2024-03-28T17:44:17.403-07:00Comments on The Weaver of Grass: Do You Know the Offside Rule?The Weaver of Grasshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-11014110015818393952021-11-28T10:28:44.791-08:002021-11-28T10:28:44.791-08:00To add to Titus's comment...from the October, ...To add to Titus's comment...from the October, 2015 *The Atlantic*<br /><br />https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/why-i-put-my-wifes-career-first/403240/MFHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14495926455768090923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-64542830849994394762011-01-27T11:38:56.920-08:002011-01-27T11:38:56.920-08:00Bill Shankly said it.
If you like football, and I...Bill Shankly said it.<br /><br />If you like football, and I do, Andy Gray and Richard Keys were always good fun to watch so I feel a little bit sorry for them. I regret to say this was just waiting to happen though in this very pc country that we now live in.<br /><br />I used to live in the North East and we were once going to a Hartlepool game only to hear on the radio on the way there that the stand had blown down in a gale! We turned back and went to the Sunderland game instead. (We were attempting to visit all the football grounds in the North East at the time).Rachel Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053924416805878169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-89423824103419770042011-01-26T06:07:16.462-08:002011-01-26T06:07:16.462-08:00Don't you just love Heather's metaphor for...Don't you just love Heather's metaphor for Tom's 'stirring it all up'!The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-49092002549816676682011-01-26T05:45:45.931-08:002011-01-26T05:45:45.931-08:00By the way - Dominic! I'm impressed!By the way - Dominic! I'm impressed!JustJuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17423675949779736980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-47083937852098457762011-01-26T05:43:45.730-08:002011-01-26T05:43:45.730-08:00Hello Weaver, this has been a topic in our home to...Hello Weaver, this has been a topic in our home too... I wasn't offended by the remarks of the Sky presenters, although people in the limelight today should know by now what happens when you make throw away comments in a politically correct society. <br />I've worked in environments dominated by men and by women, and (unless it's meant maliciously, in which case ignore it) I've shared countless laughs at the expenses of both sexes. I think both sexes are guilty of sexism, and both sexes are also guilty of playing victim in some circumstances. For the most part, I find most men and women perfectly respectable and easy to get along with. There's no danger in being different, and no danger in acknowledging this. We're not meant to be the same, but we can do a lot of the same things. That's why it's a good partnership.<br />As for the offside rule - I was criticised once by a boyfriend for my lack of knowledge. I read up on it and recited the paragraph I'd memorised. My boyfriend went red, then he and three friends smirked sheepishly, and admitted that most men don't know the in's and out's of it either!<br />As usual, wonderful post, I love something that get's me thinking! xJustJuleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17423675949779736980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-43756153410835156702011-01-26T03:47:26.032-08:002011-01-26T03:47:26.032-08:00Yes I do know, and can explain, the offside rule a...Yes I do know, and can explain, the offside rule and The Man tends to boast to his friends about my knowledge of not just football but cricket [a whole other subject].<br /><br />But I am getting increasingly concerned about "off the record" remarks being reported and people's private conversations exposed to the world at large. This latest incident with the Sky Sport Presenters is minor in comparison with Vince Cable believing he was talking in private with two of his constituents in his MP's surgery while in fact they were undercover reporters out for a scoop. When is private conversation private? <br /><br />On the particular issue of sexist remarks I do think men are hit harder for any slip in approved standards. Are any of you regular watchers of "Loose Women" on ITV at lunchtimes? I feel they regularly make extremely sexists and derogatory remarks about men that would never be allowed in reverse. Double standards I think.Masia Mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01081444074657171832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-37156745244868838552011-01-26T03:18:30.440-08:002011-01-26T03:18:30.440-08:00It's been a long time coming, but they've ...It's been a long time coming, but they've got their come-uppance at last. What does puzzle me is the frequency with which supposedly experienced and professional people say sensitive things in front of microphones thinking they are off! Will they never learn?Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-44093914538834009312011-01-26T02:28:24.248-08:002011-01-26T02:28:24.248-08:00I laughed at Tom's comment - I think he liked ...I laughed at Tom's comment - I think he liked poking sticks down wasps' nests in his youth!! I had meant to add that I don't know the offside rule - it's mens' stuff! <br />I admire the way Stephen has ignored the stereotyped role for men, and chosen his own - it sounds great to me.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06826501916623305535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-14147319513149471912011-01-26T01:00:50.560-08:002011-01-26T01:00:50.560-08:00PS And don't get cross with Tom!!!PS And don't get cross with Tom!!!The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-52614878230136706672011-01-26T00:59:52.540-08:002011-01-26T00:59:52.540-08:00WELL DONE TO YOU ALL!
I knew I had hit on a subje...WELL DONE TO YOU ALL!<br /><br />I knew I had hit on a subject that would get you all talking - isn't cyberspace marvellous for the exchange of opionion.<br /><br />Do take a minute or two to read through all these wonderful opinions - and to learn the offside rule from Dominic - and to learn about hurling from TFE.<br /><br />Thank you so much for joining in the debate - I feel like printing all your comments off and pinning them on the wall above my computer.<br /><br />Have a lovely day and remember -<br />Spring will soon be here.The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-4926666657963379022011-01-25T17:43:17.413-08:002011-01-25T17:43:17.413-08:00I am a married feminist, married to a feminist, as...I am a married feminist, married to a feminist, as well. When we married, I took my husband's last name (more for the sake of sharing our future children's last name), but first told him how very difficult the switch in identity would be. I kept my birth surname as my middle name.<br /><br />Shortly after our wedding, my new husband went to the local courthouse and petitioned to have my birth name added to his name, also as a middle name. <br /><br />All three of our sons have the same middle name...my original identity. Only our daughter was spared the name of "Floyd" as a middle name. We just couldn't do it to her! We gave her "Joy" instead.<br /><br />That set the tone for everything else in our marriage. A marriage of equality, cooperation, and sharing, not of ownership, control, or power. <br /><br />I happen to love sports...I know all the rules! :-)Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14937847762010497687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-73557078718025012392011-01-25T17:13:23.425-08:002011-01-25T17:13:23.425-08:00My view is that it is a privilege and quite edifyi...My view is that it is a privilege and quite edifying to hear your view!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Thank you for your dear friendship here in the blog-world, Weaver<br /><br /><br />Please stop by today to share a special moment with me if you have the time. Warmly, c-<br /><a href="http://comfortspiral.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Comfort Spiral</a><br /><br />><}}(°>Cloudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853753108637831069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-3821986201500677192011-01-25T16:42:27.091-08:002011-01-25T16:42:27.091-08:00A player is in an offside position if three condit...A player is in an offside position if three conditions are met: first, the player must be on the opposing team's half of the field. Second, the player must be in front of the ball. And third, there must be fewer than two opposing players between him and the opposing goal line, with the goalkeeper counting as an opposing player for these purposes. It is not necessary that the goalkeeper be one of the last two opponents. Any attacker that is level with or behind the ball is not in an offside position and may never be sanctioned for an offside offence. (A player temporarily off the field of play is considered to be ON the boundary line at the point that he crossed over the boundary line).<br /><br />Obvious really.Dominic Rivronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618013365521035400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-46798131207164985232011-01-25T16:06:52.040-08:002011-01-25T16:06:52.040-08:00i cook and love it, i clean and enjoy it, i do lau...i cook and love it, i clean and enjoy it, i do laundry and derive pleasure from it, i take care of my children - real care - i write poetry, paint, keep decorated journals, i do all the painting in the house, shovel the snow, do the groceries, cut the grass, take care of all the houseplants, teach for a living, i don't drive - my wife does that! yes i am a man and i love soccer (manchester united fan from birth), ice hockey, cycling. i have no time for roles - even less time for put-downs or ridiculing of people by gender, race, creed, preference whatever - i wish no one did - they're empty and bogus and fill a need that is often not the need of the person filling them. nope, i'm here to love and love this world and everything in it for what it is!!! sweet day in the dale weaver! stevenstevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14132104804524716898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-36394657375491087692011-01-25T14:18:15.541-08:002011-01-25T14:18:15.541-08:00Oh Weaver, I could go on for hours (and reading Ad...Oh Weaver, I could go on for hours (and reading Adrienne Rich this week - what a coincidence!). As you probably know, Gray's now been sacked, and in my opinion rightly. Words spoken are just indicators to attitudes, and beliefs, held, so I don't find anything very funny in their comments.<br />My first career was in an almost exclusively (in those days) male environment, and I certainly had to put up with, and find cutting and funny retorts to, sexist comments nearly everyday. It was sink or swim, and I still feel sorry for some other female officers who were not as hard-skinned as me. That said, I undoubtedly progressed far faster in the police than a man of similar competence, simply because I was a woman, and women were in short supply on CID and on the Regional Crime Squad, and then in further specialist departments. So there was some justified resentment from some male officers.<br />Equality? I think first we have to define it, and with men and women biologically programmed to get together and have children, well, that is no easy matter. We can't both have it all as someone (in my opinion) has to stay at home for the children. I had the 'bigger' career of the two of us, but I'm the one who gave it up and changed direction to find work that is utterly flexible enough to suit having children. My choice.<br />But in the West, we have made astonishing progress. There are millions of women living in totally oppressive societies in the rest of the world, so I, for one, will stay feminist to the core! Until we're all free to choose.<br /><br />And other such ramblings...Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16380213493011623153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-35786213535273135882011-01-25T11:32:45.738-08:002011-01-25T11:32:45.738-08:00Very well put, for a lady, Weaver. Well said, dar...Very well put, for a lady, Weaver. Well said, darling.<br /><br />( security word? 'studdi' ! )Tom Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05979590950587415840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-14433786426146884712011-01-25T10:05:26.070-08:002011-01-25T10:05:26.070-08:00I think the latest is that they've been sacked...I think the latest is that they've been sacked. And that might be a tough decision but I think it may be the right one.People in privileged positions on big salaries have a bigger responsibility to do the right thing than the ordinary joe soap in the bar.I think what they said was not only wrong but technically innacurate.<br />Hurling Mrs WEaver is a game played by two teams of 15 all armed with hurleys or 'camans' made of ash who fight over a small stitched leather ball or 'sliotar'. <br />At either end of a HUGE field are posts similar to rugby posts. If you propel the ball over the bar (and between the posts) you score one point. If you propel under the bar and between the post , it is a goal, worth three points. Unlike socccer each player has a player to mark, if he has a good day , you have a bad one. The idea of the game ( at club level) is to render your opponent as close to death, legally or illegally, without acually killing him. Whilst at county level an enormous degree of skill and sportsmanship and professionalism is evident between the multiple efforts to kill or maim your opponent.The team with the highest score after two halves of 35 mins is deemed the winner. The holy grail of Hurling is the 'All Ireland championship the wionner of which is awarded the Liam McCarthy cup. Tipperary (the home of hurling) are currently champions after a period inthe wilderness. One of their all Ireland winning team is a relative of mine. UP TIPP!Totalfeckineejithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05352708391465031655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-90142863577019978882011-01-25T08:45:08.412-08:002011-01-25T08:45:08.412-08:00It is my opinion, we still have a long way to go. ...It is my opinion, we still have a long way to go. It seems the more things change, the more they are the same. As artists we are in a most discriminated against field, other than maybe football.annell4https://www.blogger.com/profile/07629830133868270690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-85785967147652888102011-01-25T08:41:55.643-08:002011-01-25T08:41:55.643-08:00NOT a lot of fuss about nothing. Women's parti...NOT a lot of fuss about nothing. Women's participation in both cricket and football has been dogged by neanderthal sexism, overt and institutional, for a long time now. What progress has taken place over the past 40-odd years comes as the result of steady, patient, systematic pressure from highly motivated women and sensible men. That there are still crass and ignorant saloon bar pillocks at the front line of foot ball commentary is depressing. It is to be hoped that this very public leg-slapping will either shut them up or shunt them on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-47460121857943923792011-01-25T08:18:00.267-08:002011-01-25T08:18:00.267-08:00So many angles. So much to discuss.
The modern de...So many angles. So much to discuss.<br /><br />The modern definition of "hurling" in the US would be vomiting, at least among the college-aged. <br /><br />Having a favorite team can be great fun. It's always a pleasure to go out and yell for the ASM, our local rugby guys. But no matter how much I want our team to win, it's terribly disappointing and off-putting to hear jeers and boos from a crowd putting down the opponents.<br /><br />It continues to astonish me that people really do (did?) like to walk in the door after a day at work, and have their dinner on the table before they've even taken their coat off. A strange custom! Whenever I read that in books I think 'naw! how odd this fictional world'. I like to unwind a bit first, or my digestion will be all off.<br /><br />I too can't put my finger on any instances of being actively discriminated against because of my sex. And again without specific anecdotes, I know I've taken advantage in order to get out of some onerous task.<br />I think women, as a group, really are more willing to negotiate, more concerned with long-term goals, and less focussed on getting ahead right now. This all leads to it being easy for men to maintain their lead in pay and power. We are coming up, though. It's a long road.NanUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11596765792663269178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-39860931566391372752011-01-25T07:53:14.527-08:002011-01-25T07:53:14.527-08:00Personally,I think the whole thing has been blown ...Personally,I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion...as these things usually are!<br />They were daft to not check their mics but having said that this is meant to be a country of free speech those who were offended by it need to lighten up.<br />I occasionally make derogatory comments about the opposite sex and sometimes even at a footy match...and yes I thought that a woman linesman was useless at Torquay! We are all entitled to an opinion and if some women were not so damned insistent about trying to be equal to men in certain areas of life then maybe life would be easier!<br />As for the offside rule..it is a nightmare since they have changed it and none of us in my house really<br />understand it totally!<br />(That's when my hubby lets me out of the kitchen to watch footy!) ;-)<br />So...in short..a lot of fuss about nothing and just to sell papers!!<br />Well that's what I think anyway!!<br />A great one for debate though! ;-)Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991496263250729580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-4417352281610169372011-01-25T07:53:08.416-08:002011-01-25T07:53:08.416-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991496263250729580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-31981373878620124402011-01-25T07:52:03.407-08:002011-01-25T07:52:03.407-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991496263250729580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-51618067613113606162011-01-25T07:39:49.038-08:002011-01-25T07:39:49.038-08:00I don't know much about football though I do k...I don't know much about football though I do know the offside rule. I made a point of learning it - two opposition players (one is usually but not always the goalkeeper) must be between the player who will receive the ball and the opposition's goal when the ball is played - to quash those sexist comments.<br /><br />I think people tend to make derogatory comments about others when they feel threatened by those others. Now more women are entering the world of football, and doing well, some men, having only had other men to compete with thus far, probably do find those women a threat. And, in truth, they probably are: attractive young women who know as much as these men about the sport could be considered more media friendly and be chosen over them for jobs. These aren't easy times for men.Erylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06008344023000459577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-280582018791422638.post-17508538811477447402011-01-25T07:33:45.978-08:002011-01-25T07:33:45.978-08:00Oh dear, of course being way over here in Arizona ...Oh dear, of course being way over here in Arizona I know nothing about these remarks made by some probably very regretful now men.<br />I care about equal pay and domestic abuse very much but not comments or words. For me it just shows the character of the mouth they come out of and has nothing to do with me. I also think there is a vast difference between equality and being the same, we are not the same, not even close.jeanette from everton terracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02025486213973874174noreply@blogger.com